Ortman's genealogy. Belgium and France.http://gw4.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=paulthielen&lang=fr&m=D&p=jean&n=ortmans&oc=&v=10&t=L&sosab=10&color=&x=18&y=11
ahhh, I wish i had been there to see that and visit with Grandma and Grandpa . Next time.Arlis
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Thank you for coming to visit us in Helena!!! 
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Ortman's genealogy. Belgium and France.
http://gw4.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=paulthielen&lang=fr&m=D&p=jean&n=ortmans&oc=&v=10&t=L&sosab=10&color=&x=18&y=11
ahhh, I wish i had been there to see that and visit with Grandma and Grandpa . Next time.
Arlis
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